Wanna Place a Bet on Gay Marriage?

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Place a conservative commentator on the spot, and you're likely to get them to say the darndest things. Case in point, NY Times conservative columnist Ross Douthat was a featured speaker at an n+1 panel in New York last night, and he was asked about the issue of gay marriage. His reaction?

Conservative opposition to gay marriage is a losing argument.

Douthat himself does not get all warm and fuzzy about the idea of gays and lesbians marrying. He opposes same-sex marriage on religious grounds. But he's also wise enough to know that his line of thinking isn't where the arc of this country's history is heading. Opposing gay marriage now is almost like opposing the repeal of Jim Crow laws fifty years ago. Eventually the court of public opinion is going to decide this matter, and the court of public opinion belongs to advocates of marriage equality.

Douthat also spoke with the Observer after the n+1 event, and added that if he were a betting man, he wouldn't be betting against gay marriage.

"The secular arguments against gay marriage, when they aren't just based on bigotry or custom, tend to be abstract in ways that don't find purchase in American political discourse. I say, ‘Institutional support for reproduction,' you say, ‘I love my boyfriend and I want to marry him.' Who wins that debate? You win that debate," said Douthat. "If I were putting money on the future of gay marriage, I would bet on it."

Another conservative has come around that marriage equality is a matter of "when," not "if." Maybe part of that "when" happens this November in Maine, if gay rights supporters can make the state the first to fight back against a ballot measure that bashes gay marriage.

(Photo courtesy of Pinguino's photostream on Flickr.)

Vcygcorilljgafh-30x30-cropped Michael Jones

Michael Jones is a Change.org Editor.

He is the former Communications Director for the Human Rights Program at Harvard Law School, as well as the former Director of Communications for Pax Christi USA, a national Catholic peace and justice organization. Mike is a graduate of Syracuse University's S.I. Newhouse School of Public Communications and he is also a proud sketch comedy writer.

Comments (7)

  • Edwin Bonilla
    Oct 21, 2009 @ 02:20PM PT
    Edwin Bonilla

    Same-sex marriage is a very important right to which all LGBT people must have access to in every state of the United States. Ross Douthat is an intolerant conservative with an incorrect view of LGBT rights, but if he were to bet against same-sex marriage, he would lose, along with every opponent of that right. The other conservative is correct in that same-sex marriage is a guarantee in which it will gain more acceptance, thus it will recognized in more places.

  • Oct 21, 2009 @ 04:39PM PT
    Jay Pesan

    same-sex marriage should be accepted.  there is nothing wrong with spending the rest of your life with someone you love.

  • Reverend Boony
    Oct 21, 2009 @ 04:46PM PT
    Reverend Boony

    Nice to know that not all bible thumpers are as dumb as bricks.

  • Paul Hockhousen
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 06:58AM PT
    Paul Hockhousen

    At least someone who doesn't really like us is willing to admit that it isn't worth bothering to try to stop gay marriage.

    Honestly, I don't care if religious nut jobs ever like, or even accept us.

    Just so long as they leave us a lone and let us have the rights we are entitled to as human beings.

  • Martin Martinez
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 07:54AM PT
    Martin Martinez

    I Would bet too that there will be gay marriage. From a legal standpoint it is denying our constitutional rights and that is how the Supreme court will decide if they decide even though there are conservative members on the court.

  • Kari Hazzard
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 06:55PM PT
    Kari Hazzard

    Correction: If Maine defeats Prop. 1 in November (which is likely) Maine will not be the first state to do so.

     

    The first attempt to amend Arizona's constitution to ban same-sex marriage failed at the polls, the fact that they later passed a less-extreme amendment notwithstanding.

  • Shelly Goldstein
    Jan 08, 2010 @ 05:04AM PT
    Shelly Goldstein

     

    Equality in Love for all in 2010! Legalize gay marriage!

     

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnVzeGPrmiw

     

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