Of Gay Penguins and Lesbian Fruit Flies

Published June 24, 2009 @ 06:34AM PT

Gay Penguins

Biology can be fun! Case in point, a new study by University of California researchers who have found that there is essentially no animal species that doesn't practice homosexuality in some capacity. In other words, and to rewrite that sentence because it uses a horrible double negative, homosexuality runs rampant through all species.

And that would include us humans, too, despite what the Family Research Council or the Yes on 8 folks might think.

Researchers Nathan Bailey and Marlene Zuk have found that same-sex couples exist in all walks of animal life, from insects to humans, and that same-sex relationships take on different meaning within many different types of species. Here's Bailey on the study:

It's clear that same-sex sexual behaviour extends far beyond the well-known examples that dominate both the scientific and popular literature: for example, bonobos, dolphins, penguins and fruit flies. These are astoundingly variable between species, and even sometimes within species. For example, male fruit flies that cannot distinguish between the sexes because they lack a key gene might court and mount other males, but this has a wholly different origin and function than male-male sexual interactions in bottlenose dolphins, for example, which studies suggest maintain group cohesion.

Dolphins, fruit flies, Goodeid fishes, humans...the list goes on and on for Bailey and Zuk. The implications? Well, that sexual orientation is likely biological, at least in some capacity. And while that worries some, who think that science might be used as a weapon to isolate any "gay" gene, there's a flip side to the argument that suggests that biologically, sexual orientation is no different than race, eye color, or shoe size.

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This would be a great article to show to those who believe Homosexuality is a choice. We need more articles like this to show everyone that homosexuality is not a choice.

Posted by Martin Martinez on 06/24/2009 @ 09:34AM PT
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So true!

Posted by Chris . on 06/24/2009 @ 01:37PM PT
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My guess is gay penguins aren't harrassed and "pecked to death" for being gay. I suppose that makes penguins more open minded? :) Go penguins!

Posted by Carrie Lachapelle on 06/24/2009 @ 12:10PM PT
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Harassed. *type-o* It would be nice if there were an edit feature!

Posted by Carrie Lachapelle on 06/24/2009 @ 12:11PM PT
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Yikes! What on Earth!

Please talk sense. There is no logic behind making these assumtions about animal life and homosexual behavior. And, then to try and connect the dots to include humans is laughable!

When did we start modeling human behavior on that of animals?

Please get a straight life - see your local psychologist and stop living in the fantasy animal world.

When penguins fly I'll believe this load of crap.

Homosexual activity is a conscience decision and has no basis in biology or any other "ology."

Thank God for science!

Posted by Ron Kranz on 06/24/2009 @ 02:52PM PT
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Humans ARE animals.

2 legged but animals still.

Posted by Thomas McHugh on 06/24/2009 @ 04:39PM PT
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Scientific evidence states that homosexuality is naturally occuring. And I know that I sure didn't choose it!!!

Posted by Josh Ritchie on 06/26/2009 @ 10:48AM PT
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You meant "conscious decision," right? lol

Thomas is right. We are animals. To think differently is to be in denial...which, sad to say, ain't just a river in Egypt.

Posted by Tab Worth on 06/26/2009 @ 11:33AM PT
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Yes, thank God for science. Because science brought us evidence of homosexuality. And you, who seemingly has a human superiority complex, seems to believe that we aren't animals. What a load of tosh.

We are animals, so basing our behaviour on animals isn't so far-fetched. In fact, animals behave better than us in many ways.

Posted by Edmund Xu on 06/26/2009 @ 02:06PM PT
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Indeed.

Logic and common sense has always made it clear to me that sexual orientation is an inherant factor from birth which is then discovered through puberty.

Thereby making discrimination against a sexual orientation both illogical and foolish.

Posted by Thomas McHugh on 06/24/2009 @ 04:37PM PT
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I'd like to ask Ron if his attraction to women is a choice.

Posted by Carrie Lachapelle on 06/24/2009 @ 05:26PM PT
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Ron:

Sexual orientation emerges without any prior sexual experience. Although individuals can choose whether to act on their feelings, psychologists and psychiatrists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed.

Sometimes pressured by the influence of family members or religious groups, LGBT individuals are strongly encouraged, if not coerced, to try and change their sexual orientation through counseling or religion. Attempting to change a person’s sexual orientation is like attempting to change one's eye color. The reality is that sexual orientation is not a choice or an illness. It does not require treatment and it is not changeable.

In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association confirmed the importance of new better designed research and removed homosexuality from the official manual that lists mental and emotional disorders (DSM). Two years later, the American Psychological Association also passed a resolution supporting the removal.

Posted by Bryan D. Freehling on 06/24/2009 @ 05:56PM PT
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I first read about this on LiveScience (http://www.livescience.com/animals/etc/090604-gay-penguins-rear-chick.html). It's a fascinating topic, and lends further credence to the fact that homosexuality is a natural occurrence in both humans and in the animal kingdom.

For some, homosexuality arises from environmental variables and personal choices, such as the case with straight prison inmates who turn to homosexuality after long periods of incarceration out of a need for companionship or out of desperation.

But for most individuals, their sexual orientation is not a decision. For most, it is something hard-wired into their brains, possibly genetically, possibly due to random occurrence, or due to environmental variables, or a combination of two or more of the aforementioned circumstances. I believe the reason that each individual identifies with any particular sexual orientation is as unique as the individual itself. In spite of this, it's ludicrous to conclude this is something a person spontaneously decides to do out of their own free will, or that there is anything 'un-natural' about it.

Another article that offers more insight into the natural aspects of homosexuality can be found here:
http://www.livescience.com/animals/090616-same-sex-animals.html

This study concluded the brains of gay men share structural similarities with those of heterosexual women:
http://articles.latimes.com/2008/jun/17/science/sci-gaybrain17

And this study concluded the brains of gay women were similar to those of straight men:
http://www.webmd.com/brain/news/20080616/gay-brain-shows-gender-atypical-traits

I cannot find the link, but another study had concluded individuals with homosexual tendencies tend to exhibit these traits at a young age, typically before the onset of puberty.

All of the evidence, scientific and circumstantial, points to homosexuality most often being a natural component inherent to all species, and one that is most often caused by distinct physiological differences in the brain, rather than sociological factors or 'lifestyle choices'.

Posted by Alan Haggard on 06/24/2009 @ 06:10PM PT
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This is an interesting finding which would officialy offer no merit to intolerant church leaders who say such negativity toward the LGBT community. In addition, we humans are animals, though different, and it wouldn't be surprising that other animals share this quality. With this finding, the nonsense arguments used by anti-LGBT right people are further pushed into the relem of paranoia. Sexual orientation is only classification such as the factors stated in the blog.

Posted by Edwin Bonilla on 06/24/2009 @ 07:07PM PT
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Quite frankly, I don't care whether or not homosexuality is "genetic." It's "natural" because it's who we are, and that's all the matters. The truth of the matter is that no reasons cited opposing homosexuality stand up in the face of the reasons for: To love. To be loved.

....To never forget your own insignificance. To never get used to the unspeakable violence and the vulgar disparity of life around you. To seek joy in the saddest places. To pursue beauty to its lair. To never simplify what is complicated *or complicate what is simple.* To respect strength, never power. Above all, to watch. To try and understand. To never look away. And never, never, to forget. - Arundhati Roy

(Sorry, had to finish the quote, lol!)

Posted by Luella - on 06/24/2009 @ 08:58PM PT
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From what I have heard, that couple of male penguins are doing a great job of raising the abandoned (by a het couple) egg/chick they were given in, I think a German zoo.

Posted by Lee Dorsey on 06/24/2009 @ 09:02PM PT
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This is very fascinating! I have read articles with topics like this and they all say the same thing: same-sex interactions are observed in many different species, and that it is common... Which brings up the point that if the other species accept it...why haven't we?

Posted by Glen Edwards on 06/24/2009 @ 09:35PM PT
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To quote Voltaire, “ "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

A person only needs to review the history of humankind to recount all the times we have harmed or annihilated other people simply because of discrimination and intolerance of those people who were (and are) different from us.

Clearly the tools of science continue to build and support the FACT that sexual orientation is genetic. Nevertheless, it is imperative that all progressive religious people and clergy who support same-gender marriage and equal rights for all Americans to speak out against the hate for and intolerance of LGBT Americans, for if the progressives remain silent then they are accomplices to the terrible continued atrocities committed to many of God’s children, too.

For religious-minded people who are genuinely concerned about this issue, please take a moment and watch the following you tube video:

Title: Marriage Equality & Religion: The Massachusetts Experience

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJF5TREeliw

Another very interesting you tube video is:

Title: A mom warns of the harm done by 'ex-gay' groups

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1lFemAv9kw

Let the mantra of our history teachers not fall upon deaf ears. Let’s truly learn what history teaches us so that we never repeat those terrible atrocities again.

Posted by Bryan D. Freehling on 06/25/2009 @ 06:48AM PT
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For me, this just proves that love is blind.

Posted by Lisa Smolen on 06/25/2009 @ 08:00AM PT
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awww i love gay penguins!

Posted by Aleasha Casaretto on 06/26/2009 @ 05:52AM PT
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I know! Aren't they cute!

Posted by Carrie Lachapelle on 06/27/2009 @ 09:52PM PT
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I'm glad to see that objective research is being done in this area, and I hope it helps to change people's minds.

However, it is irrelevant whether homosexuality is a choice. What's important is the larger issue, which is that government has NO place deciding who should or should not be allowed to marry. As long as nobody's rights are being violated, what's the problem?

I am a happily married heterosexual, and ANY marriage between two consenting adults is just fine with me. Government should keep its nose out of this issue entirely.

Posted by Brendan Casey on 06/26/2009 @ 08:01AM PT
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So the evidence is mounting that the vast majority of homosexuality has a biological basis, and is found throughout the animal kingdom.

But I have to ask myself this question... if homosexuality was found to be a choice, and only occurred in humans... what exactly would be the problem with that?

Posted by Susannah Garton on 06/26/2009 @ 09:34AM PT
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This commentary reminds me of a statement made by my high school biology teacher about homosexual activities in animals; specifically in frogs during mating season. This teacher was no more progressive than any other, and in fact was a bit of an old-timer (he taught both my mother and father during their high school years - so it's not like he was a young, liberal spring chick), yet the fact he stated was clear, concise, and rooted in facts. Male frogs will, during mating season, mount and sexually assault other male frogs to keep them out of their 'territory' of sexual activity in an attempt to make contact with females more possible in terms of probability for mating. He did not use this message as an attempt to leverage us into thinking one way or another about homosexuality in humans or otherwise - simply for us to note that it was not so 'abnormal' or 'abominable' as many make it out to be since it occurs so readily and frequently in the animal kingdom.

Beyond this, I agree with Brendan: Government has a lot of other things to deal with, and the consentual homosexual marriage issue is essentially an ideological issue based on a 'majority' religious view throughout American culture and history. In other words, Separation of Church and State means, "Keep your nose out of my dirt."

To reply to the statement about humans using animals as the basis of their sexual activities: the opposition to homosexuality has been making the claim for YEARS that homosexuality is abnormal in humans and animals alike - hence it being an abomination, as the Good Book tells us. Well, I hate to say it, but the considerable argument got thrown back in their faces. That's all. If we based everything we did on something else instead of looking for the inspirational thoughts within ourselves, we would all be automatons without any sense of Self or a unique and creative spirit.

The fact of the matter is: get the hell over it. If we choose or if we don't, we still ARE. Responsible people can make their own decisions, and it is not in the duties of the state t make our decisions for us. To the angry heterosexuals who can't handle it all: Get over it. If someone took away your rights, you'd be pissed off too.

Remember Stonewall - 40th anniversary. Best wishes to you all, and to your loved ones as well. May the future be bright and full of hope for ALL PEOPLE.

Btw, it's not like people are fighting for the right to marry a cow or their kitchen sink. Be sensible, people!
-will

Posted by R. William Thompson on 06/26/2009 @ 11:10AM PT
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I ntoice that one poster here, in spite of mounting scientific evidence, persists in his ignorance. I suppose that is his right, but I am constrained to point out that the APA no longer considers homosexuality to be a pathology. If he means the "reparative therapy" movement, well, LBTQ have NOTHING to "repair".

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hey Ron! happy Stonewall Day!

Posted by rosasharn joad on 06/26/2009 @ 11:52AM PT
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you don't need science to confirm the obvious. who would choose to be the butt of jokes, a disappointment to their family, the subject of whispers and gossip, and the target of violence. it is completely illogical.

Posted by Catherine Turley on 06/26/2009 @ 01:20PM PT
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And Tango Makes Three is a great book for kids about this subject. We need more just like it. Teach the children at a young age and they will choose empathy and compassion and not fear. Insecurity and fear of what we don't understand makes us, as humans less intelligent in this capacity than most of the other species. There is much more compassion in the "lesser" species known as animals.

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There is a very informative book on the subject entitled "Biological Exuberance, Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity," by Bruce Bagemihl, Ph.D.

It is very much like a textbook and also entertaining to read. We are an integral part of the master plan and here for many good reasons, most beyond our comprehension.

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