Gay Rights - Change.org: Obama Once Backed Full Gay Marriage

Well, I suppose he had to go back on that while running for president? There's too many wackos in the US who wouldn't have voted for him if he supported gay marriage.

But then again... his slogan is Change. So the situation could always "change" for you.

Posted by Thom Lein on 01/13/2009 @ 01:40PM PT
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Even if a presidential candidate supports same-sex marriage privately, he would be stupid to support it openly. Let's be realistic! The majority does not support same-sex marriage. The candidate needs a majority vote to win the election. I think what Obama could possibly do for the LGBT is minimize some of the hate imposed by the Christian and Right-Wing Community.

Posted by L Easter on 01/13/2009 @ 02:56PM PT
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so? people change their views over time, maybe he did believe that when he was younger and changed his opinion, do to some unknown circumstance in his life.

Posted by Imoette Akpan on 01/13/2009 @ 03:37PM PT
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If we're all truly created free and equal; that is until those who support "Fright-wing Radio" discover those who prefer to live their lives more truthfully than most......then maybe in time Barack will bring about true change in this arena as well.

Posted by David J. Termine on 01/13/2009 @ 03:44PM PT
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When I first supported Obama, I remember him saying (sorry, don't have the exact quote) something along the lines of "to me, marriage is between a man and a woman, but I am open to the possibility that I could be wrong and realize that in the future."

To me, it sounded like code for "I'm for gay marriage, but I want to be president, so I'm going to say I'm against it. But I'm really for it, nudge nudge wink wink."

I wouldn't have voted for him if I actually believed he was against equal rights.

Posted by Lo Carr on 01/13/2009 @ 03:59PM PT
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i want someone to ask obama, point blank, if he is opposed to CIVIL gay marriage.

he's cloaked his opposition based upon his faith which is fine and well within his rights.

the struggle for marriage equality is NOT trying to "redefine" any religious institution's beliefs.

obama is a smart man. he is a constitutional scholar. he is also a POLITICIAN...

so far, he's been able to answer the question without really answering the question. that, my friends, is NOT "change i can believe in".

it's time for democratic office holders to take up this cause. they can start by clarifying the difference between "civil" and "religious" and it gives them all the leverage they need to say, "CIVIL, yes...RELIGIOUS, up to the individual religious institution". by doing so, they don't even have to take a "stance" on the religious institution of marriage...an acceptable answer to those types of questions has always been, "my faith and beliefs are highly personal and between me and God".

Posted by David Greer on 01/13/2009 @ 04:31PM PT
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Will certainly be waiting to hear the Windy City News... but of course Change...also means changing his mind. And those reading this who do support Civil Marriage Equality all 'wanted' to hear just what Lo Carr says they heard. I know his specific reference to California's proposition, was that he would support 'whatever' decision was made. Well, we wont' really have a deicision until June sometime..maybe May again?? So we'll see.

Posted by Lee Dorsey on 01/13/2009 @ 05:16PM PT
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The very idea that Gay people in California have to reestablish our right to marry -- and expend the energy and the money to repeal Prop 8 -- is about as ludicrous a notion as going back to revisit Love vs. Virginia, the Poll tax, or a woman's right to vote!
Barack Obama should be ashamed of himself for remaining silent on Prop 8. during the campaign. He alone could have protected our rights by opposing the measure, but he made a conscious, calculated choice not to. What's most frustrating is that it wouldn't have mattered anyway! Those voters bigoted enough to vote against him for supporting gay marriage were going to vote against him anyway for being black!
Add to the equation his embrace of Rick Warren's vitriolic homophobia, and Obama has proved himself to be just another slick politician, a first class hypocrite, and an unprincipled man... What a disappointment.
Franken 2012 It's all a joke anyway.

Posted by m b on 01/13/2009 @ 06:43PM PT
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I think it's just wishful thinking to suggest that Obama secretly supports gay marriage. People are so obsessed with Obama that they'll credit him with anything. One need not be cynical, but I don't really understand this blind faith. If he says he doesn't support gay marriage, then that's what I'm going to believe because that's the message he's sending out. It's as ridiculous of an assertion to state that a pro-gay marriage candidate couldn't get elected as it is to state that a black or female candidate could never get elected. I am an optimist sometimes and a pessimist at others... I try to be realistic... but I never seriously doubted once Obama actually became a candidate that a black man could be elected President in 2008, and same for Hillary as a woman. Such a doubt is not a particularly healthy kind of skepticism... it's a denial of hope. But there's a huge difference between hope and blind faith.

Posted by Luella - on 01/24/2009 @ 08:04AM PT
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